Re: Odd vertical spacing of lyrics

[Jan Warchoł]

2011/1/19 Mike Solomon <address@hidden>:
> I'll chime in and say that, although there is a workaround, the fact that 
> there is not good out-of-the-box spacing may effect a lot of real world 
> examples of choral music that is being engraved using lilypond.
>
> It may be worth it to add this to the issue tracker and get this fixed in one 
> of the first 2.14 bug fixes (if not 2.14 itself) - thoughts?

In my opinion this issue is important and potentially widespread, and
as such it should be considered a high priority one.
I also think that a good solution would mean changing the lyrics
spacing mechanisms considerably (especially because it's connected
with some vertical and horizontal lyrics spacing issues that should be
addressed).
I have some thoughts on these topics, but from what i see the
discussion about them may become monstrous in size, so i'm waiting
until 2.14 is out.
I suppose that's what we should do: release 2.14 and fix this issue
thoroughly soon after that.

cheers,
Janek

> Is there a way to add this to the issue tracker.
>
> On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Jan Warchoł wrote:
>
>> 2011/1/18 Carl Sorensen <address@hidden>
>>>
>>> On 1/18/11 8:26 AM, "Mike Solomon" <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> The following snippet is giving me the attached output w/ the soprano line
>>>> shifted way up after the line break.  Is there any way to get the soprano
>>>> correctly aligned (w/o changing the distance between systems - this minimal
>>>> example approximates a larger one w/ many systems over several pages).
>>>>
>>>> \version "2.13.47"
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> I got it to work successfully with the following change:
>>>
>>>    \new Lyrics = sopranos \with {
>>>      \override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-affinity = #DOWN
>>>      } { s1 }
>>>
>>>
>>> The lyrics were still a little bit high, however.  It's almost like there's
>>> a blank context hiding in the middle.  But I haven't been able to get rid of
>>> that small amount of extra space.
>>
>> The reference point of lyrics is the baseline and this is the cause of
>> the problem - #'nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing #'basic-distance
>> appropriate for lyrics below staff is not appropriate for lyrics above
>> staff. Consider the following (and look at the attachment):
>>
>> \version "2.13.45"
>>
>> \paper { system-system-spacing #'basic-distance = #20 ragged-right = ##t }
>>
>> \score {
>> \new ChoirStaff <<
>>   \new Lyrics = abovelyrics \with { \override VerticalAxisGroup
>> #'staff-affinity = #DOWN }
>>     { s1 }
>>   \new Staff {
>>        \new Voice = "empty" { r4 r r r \break } \new Voice =
>> "firstPart" { f' f' f' f' } \new Voice = "secondPart" { e'' e'' e''
>> e'' }
>>     }
>>   \new Lyrics = "belowlyrics" { s1 }
>>
>>   \context Lyrics = abovelyrics \lyricsto firstPart \lyricmode { ma
>> -- ma ma -- ma }
>>   \context Lyrics = belowlyrics \lyricsto secondPart \lyricmode { mo
>> mo -- mo mo }
>>>>
>>  \layout {
>>    \context {
>>      %  \Lyrics \override VerticalAxisGroup
>> #'nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing #'basic-distance = #4
>>        }
>>    }
>> }
>>
>> You can see how this changes by uncommenting the
>> nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing override.
>>
>> The strange thing is that all this somehow doesn't affect first system.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Janek
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