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Re: [Myexperiment-discuss] i need some workflows :-)


From: Carole Goble
Subject: Re: [Myexperiment-discuss] i need some workflows :-)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 23:52:19 +0100
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Dave and Jeremy

Antoon has spent three years trying to figure out what a workflow digest might be, and what "similar" would mean.

And it isn't easy.

I suggest we ask Antoon

Carole

In a way an Inchi is a canonical digest of a molecular structure.  You can
imagine one or more types of digest of workflows such that google finds "similar" workflows, where "similar" will be a function of the digest. In the myExperiment context one would want some form of digest that works across multiple workflow systems. I'm just thinking out loud - I
expect people have thought about this already.  It came up because
Don is mapping workflow descriptions to OAI.

-- Dave

On Thu, 5 Apr 2007, Jeremy wrote:

Do you think we should have URIs that is calculated from the workflow like the INChI is from the molecular structure? This would be idea but will need some interesting fundamental work to show how representations of workflows can be shown to be the same workflow etc
Jeremy


On 5 Apr 2007, at 22:23, David De Roure wrote:

BTW These are the ones I'm using now, which I found with google. I guess what I'm looking for is a reference set we can all use for test purposes.

http://www.chembiogrid.org/projects/proj_workflows.html
http://biomoby.open-bio.org/CVS_CONTENT/moby-live/Java/docs/taverna/ guide/workflows.html
http://bioinfo.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/araws/workflows
http://mips.gsf.de/projects/plants/PlaNetPortal/taverna_workflows.html

This has also got me thinking about what workflows should look like to be
indexed usefully by google - and what the IDs should look like.  For
example, in chemistry the inchi's are very google-friendly. A standard
way of identifying a workflow that works for google would be handy.

-- Dave

On Thu, 5 Apr 2007, David De Roure wrote:

Sorry this is a silly question but could someone send me and Don some
workflows or point us at some?! :-)

What we need is just an assortment of real workflows (in XML), captured in the wild, so we can play with them. I'm sure some of you have them
roaming around your desks!  Is there a zoo?!

It's just for testing our OAI thingie (must think of a name for it!)

This is something else for the wiki when we have it!

Thanks

-- Dave



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