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Re: [Myexperiment-discuss] new talks


From: Carole Goble
Subject: Re: [Myexperiment-discuss] new talks
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:42:36 +0100
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Giovanni
Well, I don't want to be rude...
well, you are.
but honestly, if I can give you my opinion, I've found that presentation a bit irritating :)
the talk was written for a KEYNOTE to a wide audience of people - over 70% were non-English speakers and 50% were Chinese.
Lots of words are needed in case they read better than they can hear.

the audience ranged from policy makers, to scientists to technical people. Some didn't know what a workflow was. Some had never heard of social curation. Some didn't know about services. Then most important thing is to get across the ideas in a fun and non-boring way.

this is a keynote, to be given with a voice - not a tutorial. In a 1000 seater theatre. Big images are required.
The slides are to support my speech -they are supposed to grab attention.

the audience really liked the talk. You didn't. Whatever. I didn't write it for you. And you weren't there. So how do you know?

First of all, the slides are too much full of text. You should redistribute the contents in more slides, and maybe cut something. For example, in the first slides, the first two points are enought.

Second, please don't put that many 'windows vista like' screenshots.
I really hate them.
They gave me the feeling that myExperiment was just another 'just for cool windows-mac and java programmers' thing, so well, maybe we other OS users are weird people, but we exist anyway.

Moreover, your slides are only available in office 2003 and 2007 format. I don't own a license for any of these two programs.
Can you please upload an odt or pdf version, too?
And can you put on slideshare, also

The problem is that I always intended myExperiment as a sort of opensource-like community. I can't explain you exactly why, but honestly, with that presentation, it gives me the feeling that it is not.
Please don't get mad at me, it's just my opinion :)
Well it is an open source community. You think a professional presentation means it isn't open source. How insulting is that! This talk took me days to write and get right, and I did. So I don't much care what you think. Clearly you haven't had much experience in giving international keynotes. I have given well over 20, and I turn down more than I give because I am so good it it.

You don't like it, then don't read it.

Carole





On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:22 AM, David De Roure <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:

    Carole's latest talk is now available on the myExperiment wiki –
    called "Curating Data? Curating Services!", it was delivered last
    week at the 21st International CODATA Conference, Ukraine, Kyiv
    and features myExperiment and Biocatalogue.

    It's available with all our myExperiment slideware on
    http://wiki.myexperiment.org/index.php/Presentations where you'll
    also find the much talked-about presentation to the British
    Library on the future of research.

    All Carole's recent keynote talks are available in the pack
    http://www.myexperiment.org/packs/33

    -- Dave

    http://www.myexperiment.org/announcements/19


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