Re: [Pan-users] Upgraded 0.11.4 --> 0.13.2.91, but...

[Bobby D. Bryant]

On 2002.12.07 11:11:00 -0600 Charles Kerr wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 05:56:13PM -0600, Bobby D. Bryant wrote:
>
> > 1) Flags - The flags are no longer persistent. (They were *always* 
> bad
> > about disappearing randomly, but now they *all* disappear whenever I
> > exit Pan.)
>
> I considered that to be a bug in the older versions.
> pan-users readers, should flagged articles be persistent across
> sessions?

Persistent flags would be consistent with what I've seen in other 
mail/news readers with graphical interfaces.

However, there seems to be two uses for them in Pan.  I use them to 
flag posts in busy newsgroups that I need to look at more carefully 
later, so the persistence is important.  But I notice that Pan lets you 
use the flags to specify what you want to download, so for that use the 
persistent flags would be wrong.  (FWIW, I use the mouse to select what 
I want to download, so I'll probably never use the flags at all if they 
aren't persistent.)


> > 2) Keybindings - Under 0.11, as with all my other text-oriented UNIX
> > applications, I use ^a, ^e, ^w, etc. to navigate and edit the text.
> > Under Pan 0.13 the results of using these habitual commands range 
> from
> > nuisance to disaster.  Would it be possible to support 
> user-specified
> > key bindings?
>
> This is a choice that the gtk2 designers made.

Yes, I removed your bindings and recompiled, and noticed that though I 
no longer get any nasty surprises the original behavior isn't restored.

> You can reactivate the emacs keybindings via the Gnome 2 control
> panel, and also by adding the line
>      gtk-key-theme-name = "Emacs"
> to your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file.
> See http://www.gtk.org/gtk-2.0.0-notes.html for more info.

Thanks for the tip!  Though I'm curious why they call it emacs, since 
the bindings work in CLIs and the text input fields of virtually every 
UNIX graphical application I've ever used, as well as in emacs.  A 
really curious decision on the GTK folks' part.

Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas