Re: [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies

[Travis]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "HarryB" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 15:08 PM
Subject: [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies


> On Thursday 11 December 2008 3:01:34 pm Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:50:40 -0600, HarryB wrote:
>> > New Pan (v0.132) user, running under Debian 4.0 and KDE 3.5.10.
>> >
>> > I have been able to post a new message to the newsgroup
>> > rec.bicycles.tech and one or two replies, but additional replies fail
>> > because the server rejects them and returns the following error: "441
>> > Posting Failed (Rejected by POST filter)" .
>> >
>> > I tried the same in 0.test and the results were the same: I could post
>> > at least one reply to my initial message, but subsequent replies failed.
>> >
>> > So, I booted into Windows and fired up Free Agent, my old newsreader. I
>> > was able to reply without a problem. So, it appears that the problem is
>> > with Pan and not my news server, bellsouth.net.
>> >
>> > What doesn't my news server like about Pan's replies?
>> >
>> > TIA,
>> > Harry
>>
>> You'll probably have to ask the provider.  Most NNTP servers can apply a
>> script against headers and message contents and reject based on content -
>> only the provider can tell you why your post was rejected since they
>> maintain the filter.
>>
>> Jim
> 
> Hello Jim,
> 
> What makes me think it is a problem with Pan is that after being unable to 
> post the reply, I booted into Windows, fired up Free Agent and downloaded the 
> same thread. I then replied to the same message using the same words I had 
> originally typed into Pan.
> 
> In fact, in order to make sure I used the exact same words, I made a copy of 
> the post and pasted it into my email client in Linux and emailed it to 
> myself. After booting into Windows I downloaded the email message and pasted 
> the exact words I had typed in Pan into my reply from Free Agent.
> 
> So, in my non-technical mind, there was absolutely no difference that my 
> provider saw in the body of the message. The only difference that I can see 
> is that one was sent from Pan while the other from Free Agent. Again, the 
> bodies of the messages were almost identical, if not, identical.
> 
> To see if I could replicate the problem I posted a test message to 0.test and 
> then replied to it, and then replied to the reply, just like one normally 
> sees in a Usenet thread. After the third reply I got a warning (from Pan, I 
> assume, since it was almost instantaneous) which read, "There were problems 
> with this post. Warning: The message is mostly quoted text." I deleted the 
> quoted text and attempted to send the reply again. Once again I received 
> the "441 Posting Failed" message.
> 
> So, I again booted into Windows and downloaded the thread I had started in 
> 0.test and tried to reply to it from Free Agent. No problems. In fact, I 
> replied to a number of the replies without any trouble. Then I booted back 
> into Linux and started Pan. Once again, I was unable to reply to the same 
> messages that Free Agent was able to reply to.
> 
> To summarize, there are messages to which I can reply from Free Agent which I 
> can't reply to from Pan. I just don't understand why that would be my ISP's 
> fault.
> 
> Cheers,
> Harry

I rarely delete text when Pan says there is too much quoted text.  I click the 
"Post Anyway" button and away it goes.
-- 
Travis in Shoreline Washington