Re: [Phpgroupware-developers] rant about themes

[ceb]

feel free to code your favorite layout! this kind of yelling is only
poor, looking at all the people which *constructive* contribute to the
project :)
if you don't like what we are doing, why are you using it at all? just go
and get something else!
i can't stand this behavour any longer

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Kai Hendry wrote:

>
> Just wanted to drop a message how I feel that all these themeing and font
> stuff is a waste of time, effort and clogs up the code.
>
> For example:
>
> idsociety? WTF is that about? I need to edit the .gifs(why are you using
> .gifs, don't they have a dodgy patent to it), however I do not know the
> font I should be using.
>

i like that layout alot and always use it. and in case you didn't notice:
we are about to change the images to png

> On the subject of gifs, do we really really images at all? Can we have an
> option of turning those damned things off. I think nice looking "icons"
> can be made solely with CSS.
>
> Choosing font in for e.g. the Notes app. What is the point?
>
> Font tags, center tags, all this icky table attribs are HTML3. Shouldn't
> the focus now be on HTML4 and CSS? Do not cite Netscape4. Only weirdos use
> that damned browser. UPDATE. ;)
>
> Most users of groupware are used some boring look and feel. Changing the
> themes colour to red or something just freaks ppl out imo.
>
> Also pages should be validating to W3C standards. It ensures that people
> write good html. Having this in a footer for all apps would be a good
> start.
>
>      <p>
>      <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check/referer";>Validate HTML</a>
>      <a href="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/check/referer";>Validate 
> CSS</A>
>      </p>
>
> I hope I haven't come across as too much of an idiot.

you did :) imo

>  I will send patches to help with the transistion if you agree with me.
>
...

i installed phpgw in alot of companies, were it is used in production.
the largest install is at my school with about 3000 users.... it works
well, and also i didn't notice any users which were freaking out by
changing the theme color...

ceb