Re: [Phpgroupware-developers] We cant continue to work like we do at the moment

[Dave Hall]

Hi,

I know that I said I would try to keep out of this thread, but I would
like to reply to some of the points raised.

Brian Johnson <address@hidden> wrote:

> Before getting into he said / she said arguments, I think that Ralf 
> should get his
> commit rights back.
> 
> I've heard that there might be some back room stuff going on and 
> frankly I don't
> care.  This specific issue seems to be a technicality that suggests 
> that there is
> personal adversarial stuff going on in the background.  Stop it.

I have been involved in constant discussion about this and other issues.
 I am sick of it.  I want to code and setup our infrastructure so we can
move forward, not keep on looking backwards.  Lets create some certainty
and momentum.

Here is what I got done today:
Wake up before 530 wanting to code
Discuss the "Ralf issue for 4-5hrs"
Go onsite and deal with some annoying boxes for 5hrs
Come home and discuss the "Ralf" issue for another 3hrs

My plan was to code for the day, then go take my dog to the park for a
while and cook a nice dinner.  So much for well intentioned plans.

> 
> The soon to follow elections will appoint a group to deal with 
> administering this
> project.  Setting up formal procedures for submissions to the api 
> and enforcing
> their application should be one of their priorities.
> 

I think most of this is already spelt out and understood.  It is a
matter of developing proper "discipline" proceedures - imho.

> Frankly, a formal procedure will slow down advancement due to a 
> review process that
> will likely be suggested but it seems that tolerance, cooperation, 
> and teamwork
> isn't being used in it's place.
> 
> Give Ralf his commit rights back and move forward with elections

I want to move forward and have the elections.  I also think that Ralf
needs to properly understand why his rights were removed.  I think he is
justifiably angry, but he is not the only one.  I think sometime for
everyone to calm down will do us all some good.

Cheers

Dave

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