Re: ``Shut-up and Hack!"

[Guillaume FORTAINE]

Daniel Martin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I follow the L4-Hurd list and noticed your recent posts to the list and
> heard about your posts to others. I'd like to make a suggestion if you
> don't mind. - Do some hacking! Work on some of the stuff you're so
> interested in, that way you'll get more of a feel for it. I think
> otherwise you will simply drown in hype and buzzwords.
>
> If micro-kernels and micro-kernel based kernel-replacements (such as the
> Hurd) is the field you're interested in, then why do you hack on a
> project like the Hurd on Mach? It may not be cutting edge (unless you
> make it so!) but the Hurd-on-Mach is the official kernel of GNU, and you
> would still be able to learn a lot I suspect. Alfred is always whinging
> for people to work on GNUMach.
>
> The other thing I would like to mention is that (judging from your
> posts) you don't seem to have understood the purpose of the Hurd. The
> Hurd exists to be the kernel of the GNU operating system. GNU already
> exists and works very well (excluding the Hurd), so it is silly to talk
> of rewriting all of GNU.
>
> I hope this has been helpful. I truly believe that doing some hacking
> would help you to understand things. If you do want to work on the Hurd
> (on Mach), read the documentation available (though much of it is
> outdated) and then get in contact with Alfred M. Szmidt, he should be
> able to point you in the right direction. You can find him on IRC (as
> ams, in #gnu and ##hurd on the FreeNode network), on mailing lists such
> as gnu-system-discuss, or at address@hidden .
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Daniel.
>
>
>
>   
Hello,

*Shut-up and hack* => this is why Hurd lost the battle to survive ....

Code and think after ... 23 years later ...

3 years minimum - 5 years maximum : here is a realistic project.

Well-defined goals and release plan. commercial interest, not only a 
silly geek's dream ...

How to do hacking without a language ? ( I'm not interested in C ... )

UNIX is so old ...

HURD is dead, forget it ... => There are not enough people on it ...

Linux shows its limits .... in term of security / maintainability ...

GNU / Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds => Why have these men lost ? => 
Because they had not the strongest foundations ...

I want to initiate a new way of thinking ...

"I consider life itself instinct for growth, for continuance, for the 
accumulation of forces, for power: where the will to power is lacking, 
there is decline."

‘The Anti-Christ’, F. Nietzsche

Best Regards,

Guillaume FORTAINE