Re: [Denemo-devel] chord symbols not rendered

[Richard Shann]

On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 13:40 -0400, Bric wrote:
> On 10/31/2014 09:05 AM, Richard Shann wrote:
> > On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 08:22 -0400, Bric wrote:
> >> On 10/30/2014 04:36 PM, Richard Shann wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 2014-10-30 at 13:58 -0400, Bric wrote:
> >>>> Hello
> >>>>
> >>>> I am using version 1.1.2.  Just tried to enter chord symbols.  Found it
> >>>> in my menus: Notes/Rest -> Markings -> Chord Symbols -> Edit Chord 
> >>>> Symbols
> >>>>
> >>>> (1) If I enter "F#m7"  I get "INVALID!" in the typeset window, although
> >>>> my entry shows in denemo.
> >>> It requires LilyPond syntax.
> >>>> (2) If I enter "Fm" (removing the pound sign), the "INVALID" error in
> >>>> the typeset window goes away, but the chord text notation is still not
> >>>> rendered.  It doesn't show up
> >>> I believe the syntax is F:m (there are some examples given in the
> >>> prompt)
> >>> If you don't want to type in LilyPond chord notation for chord symbols
> >>> you can create a staff and set the Staff Properties->Chord Symbols and
> >>> the put actual chords in, they will be typeset as chord symbols.
> >> OK. I don't mind typing in Lilypond notation.
> >>
> >>    However, lilypond is taking liberties:  when I enter "F:m7.5-",
> >> lilypond (or is it denemo?) substitutes the half-diminished symbol: Fø7
> >>
> >> I want to keep it spelled as "Fm7(♭5)", for parentheses, if possible.
> 
> Thanks.  By the way, it would really cool if denemo had an option to 
> auto-transpose the chords, too!

It already does, try it!
 
In 1.2 you can also include chord- (and hence note-) names in text that
you typeset in the score, and that will (optionally) be transposed too.
This is used in chord charts where the key of the piece is put at the
top of the piece, and it transposes with the chord chart.
These transposition features also apply to quoted bits of music in
textual annotation - so if, for example, you put a comment that "the
original was written ..." (where ... is a short excerpt of music) then
that too optionally transposes.

Richard


> 
> I mean - this would leverage already invested effort and features: The 
> chord entry is already structured and rule-based, using lilypond 
> notation.  Seems like it's already set up for auto-transposition.
> 
> I suggest:  maybe some sort of check mark that one could toggle, in the 
> menus (a menu option close to where one chooses to transpose). So, when 
> it's toggled "on", the "transpose music" sweeps in the chords in 
> addition to the staff notes.
> 
> thanks again.
> 
> > the default is something called ignatziek style, other styles are
> > available, you will need to consult the LilyPond docs and do an Insert
> > LilyPond to get them...
> > (Well, there is a whole bunch of stuff for customizing chord symbols in
> > Denemo which you could explore, I've written it for chord charts, but it
> > will work for your use too I guess).
> >
> >> Should I post to the lilypond forum about it?  By the way a newly
> >> compiled git version keeps hanging/freezing on me, when I resize the
> >> typeset window (!??)
> > I've seen it do this on the scheme window occasionally. It is some bug
> > in Gtk I guess.
> 
> Let me know if you want me to gdb it or some such.
> 
> >> But that's for another thread, I guess.  Also, I'm
> >> not sure I understand what's happening with the mailing list - am *I*
> >> doing something wrong?
> > No, the LilyPond mailing lists have gone dead too, some problem at
> > Savannah I guess, but I don't know how to flag it up; I expect they
> > know.
>