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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency
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Andrew Suffield |
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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency |
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Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:25:14 +0000 |
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On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 01:23:41PM -0800, Thomas Lord wrote:
> > From: Andrew Suffield <address@hidden>
>
> > > They're not underprepared; they're overprepared. In fact, they're
> > > cooked to the point where all the juice has evaporated. Japanese
> > > students know how to sit at desks, look at books, and memorize huge
> > > amounts of material. They have huge amounts of information stored,
> > > but no concept of how to wrap that expressive material around original
> > > thoughts.
>
> > This is the normal perception of graduate students by industries
> > everywhere. Probably deservedly; most people have no more than a
> > handful of original thoughts in their entire lives.
>
> > I have never seen any education system which performed appreciably
> > better at this. As best I can tell, it's normally left to natural
> > aptitude. I've never seen any evidence that there is a practical way
> > to teach this sort of thing.
>
>
> Where did /you/ come from? Are your gifts and advantages purely
> genetic? Or did you luck into a circumstance wich might have some
> more "commodifiable" properties?
I can think of no meaningful way to determine that. There's no obvious
answer and no practical way to sample it either.
> Your fetishsizing of "original thoughts" is also problematic. We've
> known that interesting original thoughts can be systematically and
> reliably cranked out, nearly assembly-line fashion, since Fluxus and
> Eno, at least.
Infinite monkeys do not count :P
Besides, my point stands as stated. Most people *don't*.
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- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, (continued)
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Zenaan Harkness, 2004/11/08
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/08
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Andrew Suffield, 2004/11/08
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/08
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Andrew Suffield, 2004/11/08
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Frank Pohlmann, 2004/11/08
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Thomas Lord, 2004/11/08
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/09
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Andrew Suffield, 2004/11/10
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Thomas Lord, 2004/11/10
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- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Thomas Lord, 2004/11/10
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Thomas Lord, 2004/11/10
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Andrew Suffield, 2004/11/10
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/10
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/11
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Zenaan Harkness, 2004/11/11
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Andrew Suffield, 2004/11/11
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/12
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Zenaan Harkness, 2004/11/08
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency, Andrew Suffield, 2004/11/08