Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Re: Freedom issues with non-free firmware in external files

[Diego Saravia]

2009/8/17 Yavor Doganov <address@hidden>:
> Diego Saravia wrote:
>> how do you do what you say?
>> ututo do it modifiing what the driver prints when it do not find the
>> blob the alternatives under discussion are not what you are speaking
>> about
>> are:
>>  a) distribute only the free drive
>>  b) do not distribute it.
>
> Is this discussion about what error messages should be print?

no, we will enter in that discussion if we agree on the "distribute
only the driver" option


>
> If the driver only works with non-free firmware, it is harmful to
> distribute it.  If it works for some devices without the firmware then
> it can be distributed, and made to print an error message in a
> situation when non-free firmware is required.  What's so complex here?
> This looks like a straightforward decision.
>
>> free drivers do no do that? they load firmware to your hardware, if
>> the firmware is free, I dont see the problem.
>
> It is not free, that is the problem.



>
>> I dont understand your answer
>
> Let me try a different approach.  If Gnash required to load a blob
> that Adobe "contributed" in order to do its work, it would not be OK
> to distribute it.  Needless to say, it would not be OK to be a GNU
> package.

thats not the point.


we are not speaking  about be or not be a gnu package

we are speaking about a new idea, called "100% free distributions", we
have several disagreements

I do not accept restrictions based on trademark, I do not accept
including non free images or other non-free material

we agree on not distribute propietary firmware

You do not accept to include not finished drivers that by now only
works with propietary firmware,  but you accept to include not
finished software that work only with propietary formats


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Diego Saravia
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