Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [fossil-users] [OT] Who's interested in project management & collaboration tools? And...

[Miles Fidelman]

Mark Holmquist wrote:
> On 08/06/2012 05:05 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> > That's sort of the mental model, with a few nits:
> >
> > - looking at Fossil - which incorporates distributed wiki and bug
> > tracking with a git-like distributed version control system
>
> Great plan. You could almost just git-track an instance of TiddlyWiki 
> and call it a day.

True, or use Git-Annex.  The thing is, I really don't like the Tiddly 
interface - maybe it's just me.  A lot of the underlying guts, yes, but 
I'm shooting for one version that's more list/spreadsheet like, and 
another that's outline-like.  And I'm looking at distributing changes, 
rather than entire TiddlyWikis.

> > - looking at a publish-subscribe, multi-cast protocol - to avoid nodes
> > having to do peer-wise pushes or pulls (actually, NNTP would be perfect
> > - with crypto for access controls)
>
> Yeah, pub-sub is a lot more complicated, especially with P2P, since it 
> would involve opening ports and so on. I mean, it's possible.
>
> > - think "git as a JavaScript library, embedded in the replicated 
> > document"
>
> Sounds like "distributed Etherpad Lite". Have you looked at that, and 
> thought about simply making it distributed somehow?

Etherpad is pretty much real-time.  I'm shooting for async operations - 
update when you can.

> > By the way... since the link managed to get dropped:
> > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1947703258/smart-notebooks-keeping-on-the-same-page-across-th 
>
> Eugh, "open software". It's like people just post to this list for 
> publicity, no regard for what we're trying to do. Wait....you're an 
> evil genius, that's the only explanation.

Trying to be.  One of my kids even made me an "Evil Doctor My My" id 
badge. :-)
> Supported by the fact that your beta/alpha users (and release users? 
> must be a typo?) will only have access to the source code if they pay 
> you extra. That's not how free software works, I'm sorry to break it 
> to you.
I've got to have some kinds of incentives to raise money!  I'm going 
with a limited release model of both object and source - can't quite see 
releasing to the world until I've gone through a couple of revs.  Of 
course, with a GPL, anybody who gets the alpha or beta code will be free 
to redistribute.

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