Re: Next round on frescobaldi dependencies

[Shane Brandes]

I also am unning Frescobaldi 3.0.0 on Ubuntu 17.10. It required a
small amount of finagling. I threw the resulting error which it
iinitially was throwing into google which led to a fix that was doable
through synaptic. It wasn't particularly difficult. It was a matter of
changing some bit of python library i think. Anyway, at the time I
thought it was trivial enough not to write it down. Probably should
have sent it here. It is doable.
 good luck,
Shane

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 9:01 PM, Urs Liska <address@hidden> wrote:
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> Am 01.01.2018 um 00:26 schrieb Andrew Bernard:
>
> Hi Tim, The thing about installation instructions is that they have to be
> exact, to save time and hassle. While the page mentions Python 3, it then
> goes to list just Python versions of modules - no suffix 3.
>
>
> There is an ambiguity that really should be clarified. The two custom
> modules that are required are:
>
> https://github.com/wbsoft/python-ly
> https://github.com/wbsoft/python-poppler-qt5
>
> Both don't have Python 3 in their name, and correctly so, as both work with
> both Python2 and Python3. However, for use with Frescobaldi they have to be
> used with Python3. That is: when installing through the distribution's
> package manager the packages with python3 in their name have to be used, and
> when installed with pip pip3 has to be used.
>
>
> I have been trapped in the hamster treadmill finding this does not work,
> then figuring you have to use the Python 3 versions, and then finding it is
> short on some modules, and then finding that I just cant get F 3 to work on
> Ubuntu 17 no matter what I try.
>
> Speaking as somebody with a lifetime of experience as a software developer,
> this is unclear, confusing, and incorrect. And it does not work on Ubuntu
> 17.
>
>
> This is not true.
>
>
> Urs had success installing F from the Ubuntu repository, but I don't see why
> we should not aim to be able to install this application stand alone.
>
>
> Actually I have installed Frescobaldi on two computers with freshly
> installed Ubuntu 17.10. On both computers I installed it from the Git
> repository (exactly following the instructions on
> https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/Running-Frescobaldi-3-From-Source-Git-(Linux))
> *and* from the Ubuntu repository.
> The difference was only the order. When I first installed the frescobaldi
> package with apt all dependencies were already met so I didn't have to
> install them separately for the Git repository version.
>
> I want an install that is clean, clear, and understandable and manageable,
> not just a way of making the application run by any means.
>
>
> From my latest experience the install on the Github Wiki page *is* clean,
> clear, understandable and manageable. It works on Ubuntu 17.10, Debian 9,
> and Debian 10 without any issues.
> I agree that the instructions on frescobaldi.org/download are suboptimal.
> And I have never tried out the approach of downloading a release archive and
> using setup.py.
>
> Urs
>
>
>
> I still think at this stage there is some unstated dependency on how Qt is
> installed that I can't fathom.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On 1 January 2018 at 09:16, Tim McNamara <address@hidden> wrote:
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>>
>> On Dec 31, 2017, at 5:30 AM, bb <address@hidden> wrote:
>> >
>> > I think you cannot install different versions of frescobaldi or parallel
>> > from different sources. You might simply remove the repository version, try
>> > again and see what happens.
>> >
>> > Concerning the description on http://www.frescobaldi.org/download.html
>> > there are some errors for frescobaldi 3.0.0, the dependency list is
>> > incomplete and versions are wrongly noted
>> > one needs Python3-Poppler-Qt5, for me Python-Poppler-Qt5 did not work
>> > for some reason I argue python3-pyqt5.qtwebkit is neded, that is not on
>> > the list
>> > may be more issues?
>>
>> Looking at the Frescobaldi install from source page, it clearly indicates
>> that the Python stuff should be from the same version (3.4 or higher).  I
>> would hope that following the recipe will result in a working install for
>> you.
>>
>> ******************
>> Frescobaldi 3 needs Python version 3.4+, PyQt5 and Python-Poppler-Qt5. And
>> of course python-ly and Python-PortMidi, installed for the same Python
>> version.
>>
>> Installation order:
>>
>>         • Install Python 3.4 or higher
>>         • Install PyQt5, using the same Python version of course.
>>         • Install python-ly
>>         • Install Frescobaldi (will work, but without PDF and MIDI
>> support)
>>         • Install Python-Poppler-Qt5
>>         • Install Python-PortMidi. If this one is difficult to install,
>> you can also use Pygame, which too contains the Python-PortMidi library. Use
>> the correct Python version!
>>
>> ******************
>>
>> Hope this helps!
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