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Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost


From: bergman
Subject: Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:58:06 -0500

In the message dated: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:59:17 EST,
The pithy ruminations from Ken Hornstein on 
<[Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost> were:
=> Greetings all,
=> 
=> I've been (slowly) working on sorting out the whole From: mess that
=> was discussed earlier, and of course like many things in nmh there are
=> a ton of assumptions that makes this a lot harder than it needs to be.
=> But I digress ...

Many thanks for all your work!

=> 
=> I came across the code in post that handles the masquerade settings and I've
=> realized that a) it makes post more complex, and b) I don't think we need
=> it, especially since we're switching to configuring our userid in 
.mh_profile.
=> 
=> To remind everyone, there are currently three settings in mts.conf for
=> masquerade:
=> 
=> draft_from - if you don't have this then post will use what it thinks is
=>           your "real" from as the Sender: header (and the envelope from
=>           address as well).  I guess this was done to prevent undergrads
=>           from easily forging email; I would submit that the days when
=>           you had to know the details of SMTP to forge email are long
=>           over since nearly every email client out allows you to change
=>           the from: header (although I fondly remember that as a rite
=>           of passage in college ... ah, good times).  I think that
=>           we should simply remove the flag and always use the From:
=>           header in the draft as the envelope from.

I disagree. I was under the impression that the "From" field in
.mh_profile would be a default, particularly if nothing else was set or
could be determined as the 'right' address.

Like most of us, I've got multiple mail address personality disorder. I
set the body From: to several different addresses daily. I really don't
want the envelope and body From addresses to differ. Certainly, if nothing
is set, then the value in .mh_profile should be used for both...but if
the user does set the body From to something else, I'd like to see that
masqueraded in the envelope too.

=> 
=> mmailid    - Allows you to format your GECOS field so the envelope from
=>           will be taken from the GECOS field.

I can see getting rid of this.

=> 
=> username_extension - Adds $USERNAME_EXTENSION to the your userid.

And this too...

=> 
=> Like I said, I don't believe draft_from is relevant in the modern email
=> world, and if we're going to configuring your userid in .mh_profile I think
=> that's a better way of accomplishing the last two.  I propose to junk it
=> all.

Thanks,

Mark

=> 
=> And while we're talking about post .... I always forget about it, but there's
=> also spost.  It opens a pipe to sendmail -t and uses that to submit email.
=> It's not documented and there's a lot of duplicated code there.  I propose
=> to just get rid of it (because, frankly, I don't want to have to hack on that
=> code twice).  Objections?
=> 
=> --Ken
=> 
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