Re: [Savannah-hackers] savannah.gnu.org: submission of GenArtWare, toolset for prosuming generative art/media

[Zeljko Blace]

>    Regarding integration of third party software (CSound etc..) you
> must be extra careful that it is released under a license compatible 
> with
> the GNU GPL and that licensing terms are properly applied. You need to
> do this if you integrate (different from depending on another program in
> the sense that you copy the program into yours instead of depending on
> it for runtime). 

I am well awear of this and I would also very much like to stay in contact
with people who are well informed of the legal constrains/posibilities in
terms of both US and European law practices... Can you suggest me who to
contact directly for advices? 
I would also like to put out that project is
sponsored (or supported by FSF and GNU.org) in both IT and legal services.
Can I do this on the frontpage of the project?

>          It is reasonable to start as a single project as long as the
> third party software integrated into your project is not large. If it
> becomes large it will be a problem for project management and for 
> Savannah administration (we currently do not host GNU/Linux 
> distributions
> for this reason). When and if your project grows you will have to split 
> it into different Savannah projects.

Sure. but I don't expect to reach this limit in next 2 years for sure!

>          The resulting fragmentation will not be a problem. You can 
> easily
> glue all the projects together via web pages. Savannah is really a 
> backend
> storage and development tool. Glue between projects is best done thru a 
> web site that points to the relevant CVS / tasks / bugs pages on 
> Savannah.
> 
> So you can re-register your project with statement relative to the 
> things we talked about.

Can you just advise me what are the ACTUAL changes that I have to make 
to this new application? 
I would lik eto start using it as quickly as
possible so wanna do the application write this time.


Best, Zeljko

> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Le mer 03 jui 2002 à 13h28, Zeljko Blace a écrit :
> > On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Is genartware a software or the project of creating "several
> > > applications"?
> > 
> > we would first try to use existing applications (slightly modified for
> > this purpose) like CSound and PureData or jMax even... and than decide
> > on
> > design issues and dynamics ... to go from scratch or continue
> > modifaying
> > tham.
> > 
> > > If it is a big project which would carry many differents
> > subprojects,
> > > each subproject should have his proper project account on savannah.
> > > For example, the project DotGNU have several subprojects on
> > savannah,
> > > as DotGNU Libraries, DotGNU forum system.
> > > Can you clarify this point?
> > 
> > This is reasonable argument after the initial planning and research
> > part is over...know it would only fragment things ... we would like to
> > keep it centerd for first year and than devide things.
> > 
> > > You haven't said anything about dependancies. About sound, images,
> > the
> > > problematic point is the over-representation of proprietary
> > standards
> > > and libraries. Can you state your position? Note that savannah host
> > > only projects that can be installed, used, without installing
> > > proprietary libraries or softwares. That means that your program can
> > 
> > > support proprietary extension but should work anyway well without
> > it.
> > > You surely understand that we dont want to incitate people to
> > install
> > > proprietary stuff.
> > 
> > I am well awear of this fact and we will mosty relay on existing free
> > formats like ogg and xml ... when we decide to start new format
> > development it will be FREE. No need to worry.
> > 
> > > Also, could you create a tarball with the code as it now exists
> > > and make it available to a temporary URL?
> > 
> > There isn't any tarball as we are now collecting the works of
> > individual
> > works from PD and CSound communities to learn on their strategies.
> > It might take 3/4 months before we actually get into the coding!
> > We even plan to open a public call for people to submit code that
> > meets
> > requierments (FREE, crossplatform and expandable) and award with some
> > cash/travel price person who submits best code for start of the
> > project
> > and builds the fundation.
> > 
> > Would such award be against policies(as it would not be a fee but
> > maybe
> > travel to Croatia or something like that)?
> > 
> > Regards
> > Zeljko
> > 
> > > So, please resubmit with all this clarifications,
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Le mer 03 jui 2002 à  3h24, address@hidden a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > A package was submitted to savannah.gnu.org.
> > > > This mail was sent to address@hidden, address@hidden
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Zeljko Blace <address@hidden> described the package as follows:
> > > > License: lgpl
> > > > Other License:
> > > > Package: GenArtWare, toolset for prosuming generative art/media
> > > > System name: genartware
> > > > This package wants to apply for inclusion in the GNU project
> > > >
> > > > Description:
> > > > GenArtWare is a project of producing several applications that are
> > > > supposed to (dis)play, author and transcode generative media
> > content.
> > > > This primarly stands for music and sound (as a free alternative to
> > > > commercial Koan engine from SSEYO), but also for visual arts like
> > > > graphics, 3D and video.
> > > > With this software and standard that we hope to establish we would
> > > > liketo introduce new qualities to the media art (be it music,
> > video,
> > > > graphics or interactive computer art). These are primarly
> > variability
> > > > and generativity of media (meaning symplified being able to play
> > the
> > > > material differently every time ... without actuall change of the
> > > > musical score or visual composition).
> > > > It does not exist yet but Multimedia Institute is working on it.
> > > >
> > > > Other Software Required:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Other Comments:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > >
> > >
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> > > Mathieu Roy
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> > >
> > 
> > 
> 
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> Mathieu Roy
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