Re: Changing the no-toolkit scrollbar thumb color. (minor issue)

[Luc Teirlinck]

Robert Chassell wrote:

   If he sees that it has no effect he is not going to assume the lack of
   effect is a feature; he is going to assume it is a bug.  Worse, there
   is a good chance he will not read the documentation.  Unfortunately,
   this is the way many people are, even some Emacs users.  :-(

Yes, but in this case the documentation is staring the user straight
in the face.  He has to actively "look the other way" not to see it.
Currently we have (in the customization buffer):

Scroll Bar face: (sample) Hide Face
   State: this face has not been changed with customize.
Basic face for the scroll bar colors under X.

Now we can change this line to say:

Scroll Bar face: (sample) Hide Face
   State: this face has not been changed with customize.
Basic face for non-GTK scroll bar colors under X.

Custom has a very small number of standard "State" lines and we should
be really careful before starting to mess with that system.  If the
user does not look at the standard line that tells him what the face
is for, then why would he bother reading the "State" line, anyway?
Why would he bother checking whether there is a message printed in the
echo area?

Note that normally, when browsing faces, the user does not even get to
see the "State" line, he _only_ sees the documentation.  From the
parent group, one normally sees:

Scroll Bar face: (sample) Show Face
   State: hidden, invoke "Show" in the previous line to show.
Basic face for the scroll bar colors under X.

Sincerely,

Luc.