Re: [Ghm-discuss] The posh talk does not complain with the policy

[Garreau\, Alexandre]

On 2014-08-18 at 20:59, Luca Saiu wrote:
> I don't want to reopen the discussion, but at least this has to be
> answered correctly, before we forget this and then one year from now
> people find strange stuff in the archives.

So let me precise my statements:

> On 2014-08-15 at 16:36, genium wrote:
>
>> Do you mean Free Software and LGBT movements share the same goals, and
>> should be seen as two facets of the same object ? Do I have to support
>> Feminism in order to support Free Software ?
>
> Despite Alexandre's response, the answer is obviously NO.

My answer was more complex than that, when he said “you mean” I was
thinking we was speaking about *my* thought (since he was answering to
me), not *our* (this was because of a poor and useless restriction of
English language, since “thy” isn’t used anymore), that’s why I then
precised what was mine and what could be the one of others, as when I
said “But you ‘should’ not, as I can’t impose my point of view nor my
ideas, […] After all, free software movement can have many
interpretations and is considered as part of many movement by many
different people.”. So the very free software movement in itself doesn’t
remains locked into any political thought, but *can* be integrated into
most of them.

> The two movement have completely different goals, so it makes sense that
> a person supports neither, only one of them, or both: all four
> combinations are possible.  The point is that the two issues are
> different, hence not in conflict: it is *possible* to support both.

I would say it’s a question of interpretation. People can integrate it
in their political thought so that they could think personally that
these two are compatible or not. “Political thought” here includes
absolutely anything, from fascism to Marxism, including libertarianism,
liberalism, socialism, anarchism… and even nihilism (hence not being
locked into any of these). So it *can* be thought to not be linked, to
be incompatible or the same, or it can not be so, it completely depends
of one’s thoughts and interpretations.

> Now, the *typical* position of free software supporters in my experience
> is, like for every civilized human being, to accept that women,
> homosexuals, and all people irrespective of gender or sexual preferences
> have equal rights in society, and to defend such equality.
>
> The further step of taking explicit actions in order to look more
> friendly and welcoming, such as avoiding some conversation topics hence
> curbing free speech, is what the controversy was about.

I would add that excluding women, homosexuals, or some people according
their gender or sexual preference would potentially harm community, and
that’s a reason more, beyond “general acceptation”.

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