Re: Lilypond lobbying?

[Urs Liska]

Am 18.08.2011 17:42, schrieb Robert Schmaus:
> I even feel I have to come to those guys' defence - zero of my
> professional as well as non-professional musical friends knew (of)
> LilyPond before I told them, and I don't think many of them will use it
> because they prefer the apparent comfort of
> point-and-click-WYSIWYG-kind-of-programs. Whereas all of them use
> Sibelius or, occasionally, Finale.
>
> Also, I don't know any of the numerous other scorewriting programs that
> are available out there, so I cannot judge the quality of those. So, I
> don't want to step on anyone's toes, but let's just assume that they are
> inferior to Sibelius and Finale.
>
> So it might very well be that there is some commercial background to
> that contest rule ... but it might also just be that the judges want
> typeset scores of decent quality, and for all they know only Sibelius or
> Finale deliver that.
No, that is surely not true (or if it is their intention it is not valid).
The use of a superiour notation software (granted Sibelius and Finale 
could count as such) does absolutely not guarantee decent looking scores 
because of the human that still has to use it. If they want to provide 
the jury with readable material they should rather write something like 
"entries that are considered below the standard of notation quality may 
be discarded".
And I still keep to my point that the use of any notation software _can_ 
restrict the creativity of a composer. Sibelius or Finale (as well as 
any other software) deliver scores that the computer can create and 
prohibit scores the computer can't or the author doesn't know how to 
create. I know many composers who stick to handwriting for exactly this 
reason. And I know others who use graphic software instead (or as a 
complement).

So I can't think of anything else than they want to use the files for 
publication afterwards. They don't want to pay for a typesetter, so they 
don't accept handwritten or potentially incompatible scores.
But for this it would have been enough to expect the prize winner to 
provide such files for publication (you might argue that having won the 
prize you can take care of that)
> I wouldn't call that stupid ... maybe a bit
> narrow-minded (in particular because they exclude any musical genius who
> doesn't know computers from their contest), and certainly annoying for
> us here. I still wait for their response, though. A-and I found the idea
> of including a "make-it-look-crappy-like-sibelius-engraver" very
> amusing!
>
> Rob
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> On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:20 +0300, "Dmytro O. Redchuk"
> <address@hidden>  wrote:
> > On Thu 18 Aug 2011, 08:32 Francois Planiol wrote:
> > > - They are totally stupid and
> > On Thu 18 Aug 2011, 09:49 Francois Planiol wrote:
> > > So stupid guys
> > :-)
> >
> > ps. Not too constructive criticism, I'd say.
> >
> > --
> >    Dmytro O. Redchuk                        "Easy to use" is easy to say.
> >    Bug Squad                                             -- Jeff Garbers
> >
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