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Re: [Phpgroupware-developers] My ISP


From: Bob Crandell
Subject: Re: [Phpgroupware-developers] My ISP
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:05:45 +0000

I know it can't included this go around.  If it's very intense, I'd be suprised 
if
it made it next time too.  I'm mostly wanting to air this out.  Present my idea 
and
what reality does to it.

Thanks guys.

Alex Borges (address@hidden) wrote:
>
>No i do think its a good idea. Hell, id like to be able to copy groups,
>user acl, group acl, and make collaboration scenarios and all. I dont
>think the need is invalid, its just unrealistic to think we are going to
>get it right in a couple of days and we need to put this out the door.
>This stuff has to wait for head.
>
>On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 01:06, Dave Hall wrote:
>> Bob Crandell <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> > Chris Weiss (address@hidden) wrote:
>> > >
>> > >Bob Crandell (address@hidden) wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi,
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm setting up a phpGroupWare version 0.9.14.512 demo site for
>> > my local ISP.  He
>> > >> really likes it.  So far I haven't run into any show stoppers
>> > which is a good thing.
>> > >>  Yes?
>> > >
>> > >yes!  a few details and .16 will be ready for prime time. Most
>> > people can use
>> > >it as is right now, it's quite stable.
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> What I would like to see is the ability to copy a group.  For
>> > example, set up the
>> > >> Default group just the way you like it.  Now copy it to other
>> > groups.  Make a
>> > >> few, if any, changes and just add users.
>> > >
>> > >hm, a group can belong to another group right?
>> > No.  Use some group as a master, click a "Copy" button to create a
>> > new group that
>> > has all the attributes and give it a different name.  Wahlah!  New
>> > group already
>> > configured.
>>
>> What is the purpose of copying the group?  Really I see very little
>> benefit from this feature.
>>
>> If it is to grant access to apps.  Then simply create a group for each
>> app and add the users to that group - messy but will work.
>>
>> >
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> Adding users with the phpGroupWare interface should add a Linux
>> > user.  Deleting a
>> > >> user should have the _option_ of deleting that user's home
>> > directory.  I seem to
>> > >> have a vague recollection of someone asking about this in the
>> > distant past.
>> > >
>> > >This is a whole lot harder than it sounds, but I have a working
>> > add-on in the
>> > >shadows which does exactly this.  I'll tidy it up as soon as I
>> > finish an
>> > >unrelated project and put it in CVS.
>> > This admin is a Windows kind of guy.  The fewer interfaces he has
>> > to deal with the
>> > less confused he'll be.
>> > Adding a Linux user is working in Webmin.  I'm glad your's is
>> > close to working too.
>> > I'm planning on implimenting LDAP but neither phpGroupWare nor I
>> > am ready for that yet.
>> >
>>
>> fips @ probiz is currently working on fixing the LDAP support in 16 for
>> us.  From what I have heard we should see something pretty soon.  As for
>> setting up LDAP - I used to stuff it up all the time, but once you have
>> done it once it is easy.  Run up a simple debian woody box, grab a howto
>> and play.  If you stuff it up start over :)
>>
>> For an ISP which is hosting so many things, LDAP would make life a lot
>> easier.  Maybe check out - http://ispman.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Dave
>>
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