Re: [Audio-video] http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2013/Samuel_Thibault_Jean-Philippe_Mengual-Freedom_0_for_everybody_really_.text

[MENGUAL Jean-Philippe]

Le 02/08/2014 17:49, Richard Stallman a écrit :
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
>      ok. Why couldn't we have a common approach saying: Yes, your
>      program is free giving to the user the four fundamental freedoms
>      against oppression by State. But to go beyond the oppression,
>      maximize the freedom 0 consequence and make a program promoting
>      freedom, equality, brotherhood (fraternity), it should be designed
>      to be potentially accessible by any user.
>
> Change that a little and we would agree with it.

Change what? Statements you don't understand? Or other part of the approach?
>   

> But when we discuss this,
> people keep making statements that equate lack of accessibility with
> subjugating users.  It's too bad.  If you don't believe that, why say it?

Because in a world where paying tax, getting social help, buying things, 
is governed by computers, if a technical environment is not accessible, 
the user needs help. And making something through the help of someone, 
when this thing is as important as paying tax or buying, the concerned 
users could be considered as subjugated because anyone can use their 
vulnerability to subjugate them. In some country, digital approach is 
mandatory, or strongly recommended (financial encuragments, etc.).


> If you could systematically refrain from making such statements, we
> would have no conflict.

I think the most important thing is having a common message, a message 
which could respect the thoughts of everyone, don't you think? It's the 
purpose of the approach I suggested. Do you see any danger even if both 
approaches exist? It seems to me that they aren't against free software, 
they only speak at a different level of action.



Regards,





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Jean-Philippe MENGUAL

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