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Re: web translation oddities
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Graham Percival |
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Re: web translation oddities |
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Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:32:45 +0100 |
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On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 05:20:08PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
>
> > It's "fine", but not "perfect" -- enable the "nl" translation,
> > then look at community->old news. The HTML output contains a
> > bunch of @ref{Changes} and the like.
>
> just like -- see below -- news.itexi, also community.itexi
> has no dutch translation. These refs are also from the
> original english version -- same argument: should we mandate
> copies/ skeletons here?
>
> if so, iwbn if make skeleton-update worked
I'm guessing that skeleton-update copies stuff around? Like
/etc/skel/ ?
> > So I see three options:
> > 1) ignore it. Let the log have ~500 extra lines (which makes it
> > much harder to track down any real problems that might occur later
> > on), let the output have a literal @ref{...}, etc.
>
> right, I've been doing this and it produces a working website.
> I think all/most real node errors are caucht anyway by a regular
> make all-doc
I guess so. I'm still worried about burying the console in
(mostly) pointless warning messages, thereby obscuring the *real*
error messages.
This is especially bad when people start adding @manualFoo-nl
links in there. Most translators aren't going to get that stuff
right, so being able to tell them "if you see any warnings in
`make website', then go back and fix the mistake in whatever you
last changed" would really help.
I mean, you'd like the nl page for Manuals->Learning to link to
the nl version of the Learning manual, right? And display the nl
translation of "Learning" ? etc?
> > 2) insist that the Documentation/??/web/ contain all the files in
> > the English version. We don't insist that they all be translated;
> > just that they have the copies there, and that they update the
> > @ref{}s to be internally consistent.
>
> see iwbn above...also, won't this requirement cascade (because of refs)
> right down into *all* documentation?
No, because "make website" only build the website. I don't know
how the main build system does this, but evidently it works.
... then again, given the amount of "node warnings" when doing
"make doc", maybe it _isn't_ working at the moment.
> > 3) fix lilypond-texi2html.init. Not me.
>
> ...when it's in python maybe.
So we wait for John to rescue the translations? *shrug* I won't
argue with that.
Cheers,
- Graham
- web translation oddities, Graham Percival, 2010/04/02
- Re: web translation oddities, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, 2010/04/03
- Re: web translation oddities, Graham Percival, 2010/04/03
- Re: web translation oddities, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, 2010/04/03
- Re: web translation oddities, Graham Percival, 2010/04/03
- Re: web translation oddities, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, 2010/04/03
- Re: web translation oddities, Graham Percival, 2010/04/03
- Re: web translation oddities, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, 2010/04/03
- Re: web translation oddities, Graham Percival, 2010/04/03
- Re: web translation oddities, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, 2010/04/04
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- Re: web translation oddities, John Mandereau, 2010/04/05
- Re: web translation oddities, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, 2010/04/06