Re: [for Italian users] how to translate "spanner"?

[Jean-Charles Malahieude]

Le 23/08/2012 21:36, Mike disait :
> On 23 août 2012, at 21:28, Tiresia GIUNO wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:07:34 +0200
> > "address@hidden" <address@hidden> wrote:
> >
> > > Chipping in as this issue came up in a talk I gave in France a few
> > > years ago.
> > >
> > > It seems that it'd be good to standardize this in Romance languages
> > > as much as possible.  I believe that during the talk I francofied «
> > > spanner » into « spanneur » which, with explanation, passed.
> > >
> > > Other verbs for « span » in French would be :
> > >
> > > --enjamber
> > > --recouvrir
> > > --chevaucher
> > >
> > > The last two imply some sort of overlap whereas the first I'd only
> > > ever use to describe gothic vaults in cathedrals. Then again I'm not
> > > a native speaker, so perhaps a native speaker wants to chime in.
> > > There are other verbs that kinda work, but they're reflexive and
> > > would be difficult to turn into nouns.
> > >
> > > At any rate, I'm for vulgarizing English when appropriate.  In
> > > English we say « piano », « andante » and « ciao » w/o batting an
> > > eyelid.  I received an e-mail in Italian recently that used the work
> > > « link » for « the thing you click on to take you to a page », so I'm
> > > guessing that Italian is itself filled with anglicisms.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > MS
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry I switched to Italian without thinking that other people
> > could be interested. I proposed the translation "Tensore" from
> > "tendere" (in French "tendre", then maybe Tenseur???) or to keep the
> > english word (BTW, it looks like the Italian "Spanna", also Span in
> > english, has the same origin as "Spanner")
> >
> > Right now I see that this word "Tensore" is used in mathematics
> > (english Tensor, french Tenseur) - I don't know...
> >
> > Ciao, TG
>
> Hm...tendre in French is usually used with body parts to mean sort of reaching
> out or straining.  It has a sense of motion towards something as well (tendre
> vers, tendre à).  I'd never heard of tenseur or tensor, but both of them look
> mathy.  I'm a fan of sticking to « spanner / spanneur / spannarizza / espannaro
> » or whatever.  But other speakers of Spanish / French should chime in.


As a matter of fact, I chose « extenseur » for these reasons:
- I was not very good in mathematics, and I don't see a graph but a 
musical score when I read LilyPond's output,
- a spanner is a graphic object that "extends over" other objects,
- it is a substantive for the active form « s'étendre sur »
- by analogy with muscles.

Have a look at these threads (in French):
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user-fr/2005-10/msg00005.html
and
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user-fr/2008-12/msg00007.html

Cheers,
Jean-Charles