Re: Development environment (BIS)

[Darren Schreiber]

To follow up on Paul's recommendation to Benedikt's work... I would note
that he has a few tutorials up.

His original course (I believe)
http://cce.sscnet.ucla.edu/swarmcourse/syllabusW98.html

The version taught at Swarm Fest '99
http://www.santafe.edu/projects/swarm/tutorial.html

And, materials that he and Lars-Erik Cederman used in teaching a graduate
seminar I took.
http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/99W/polisci209-1/

The last is the most comprehensive and a resource that I frequently refer
to for help.  Now if only the new book was somewhat less than $100...

        Darren


>Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
>
>>
>> Consequently, at a practical level, given that the documenttaion of
>> Swarm (tutorials and else) are oriented towards ObjC, what is the
>> opinion that have mildest learning curve: learn ObjC and benefit from
>> this documentation or try to learn the integration of Swarm in Java
>> by using only the few exemples?
>>
>> My first impression was that the ObjC option was better (given the
>> documentation).Hence my question about the development interface
>> under MS-Windows. Given that learning a new language does not really
>> afraid me, what is your advice?
>>
>I think your judgment is right.  In its current state, I don't think a
>person can get very far with the Java Swarm unless they also know the
>Objective-C version.  Even when Glen R, my mentor, argues that you
>should not go from Java to ObjC, he does point out that a working
>knowledge of ObjC is necessary for usage of Java.  After a while, this
>may change as more java examples become available.  I've just been
>starting-up on Java and I do think it is quite a nice language and for
>beginners it will eventually be a better approach.  But it is not now
>because we don't have enough examples and documentation for it.
>
>I'm just starting a graduate seminar and I'm going to put them through
>the ObjC paces.  I'll be sharpening up the listing of educational
>resources on Swarm in the SwarmOnlineFaq.  I think you should check out
>the resources that Benedikt S currently has available at UCLA. Grab
>whatever you can, there is no telling how long they will have that stuff
>up there.  Also, the Luna&Stefansson book is just now published.  I've
>asked our librarian to order it, who knows how long that will take. I
>saw an advance version of Benedikt's Swarm tutorial in there and its
>quite nice.
>
><recruitment>
>Perhaps, after a while, you will be the kind of person that can help
>create user documentation for the Java version.  I don't mean technical
>reference, as the Swarm team provides that. I mean user guide sorts of
>docs.  I've been wondering if there should be a separate FAQ for JAVA,
>and I'm certainly not the one to do it. I think the explanation that you
>presented for your decision to adopt Swarm is quite persuasive and it
>indicates you are in this for the right reasons.
></recruitment>
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